Not to be deterred by my previous failure I thought I would replace the outside lights with some up/down lighters to refresh the outside of the house.
Unfortunately I've hit another issue, and before I lose man points and phone the electrician, I'd like to check with your folks that I'm not missing anything obvious.
Replaced one light. This involved screwing new mounting holes for the up/down lighter and screwing the wires in to the new choc-block.
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To try and trace back my steps, I have removed the light, fitting, screws, just the bare wires are sticking out. If I turn on the smaller breaker for the downstairs lighting loop, it still trips the RCB?!
Not drill, but yeah, new screws in different place (only wood) - if I've hit a cable it's not the one supplying the light as that can be easily seen from behind (inside the porch).
Power off to the board. (Big switch on board) its just if all you have done is remove that fitting and screwed into that wood panneling then the fault is likely to be else where or the breaker has given up the ghost after a fault (chint are ****) no nicks in the cable where it's been stripped back?
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I've not tried powering off the entire house/board. Is it just a case of power off the large switch, try the light-loop-B6 breaker again, and see if it trips the RCB? What will this show/prove?
Start at the junction box and remove the cables going to the 2 outside lights, remove all of them by the way not just the live as a neutral/earth fault will trip an RCD too.
It may be unrelated to the work you've done, try switching all the switches on the downstairs lighting circuit to the opposite of what they are at they moment then try the breaker.
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Do as above, turn every switch off on downstairs lights and try again, switching them on one by one till you get a trip. If it's tripping regardless then I'd advise an electrician unless you want to tear downstairs lighting to bits.
Called the leccy, he came out and fitted a new breaker for the lighting loop - it fixed the problem, but as he was walking out the door it tripped again.
Seems the fault is indeed unrelated to the work I did, but elsewhere on the downstairs neutral loop that spans four rooms.
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It does seem a bit of a coincidence that it happenend when you were working on that leg of the circuit though, I'd try removing everything else from that junction box just to see. It could be a faulty PIR in that porch light.
Electrician said it could be a weakness exposed elsewhere in the circuit when fitting the new light. I find it hard to swallow, as you say, its a massive coincidence - but still - we have completely removed that section of the wiring I worked on - so not sure what else to try now.
Not much you can try, need to track down the fault which can either be done trial and error or if it was me I'd be performing a IR test on the lighting circuit isolating legs as I went till the fault was found which I suspect your electrician will do tomorrow. Just plug a few table lamps in for tonight.Recently a homeowner called because some of his landscape lights were not working. When we inspected his transformer, we found that one of the circuit breakers kept tripping. In order to diagnose the problem, we needed to isolate which lines were good and which line was the problem. We do this by testing each line until the circuit breaker trips.
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In the case of this homeowner’s system, we isolated the line which had the problem, and then checked the connections of the fixtures. We found that both wires from the fixture and the cable were all secured together with one wire nut. Every time power came on the line shorted out and the circuit breaker tripped. Once we properly connected each of the wires from the fixture to a corresponding low voltage power line the circuit breaker no longer tripped and all his lights worked fine.
Although the wattage being handled by the circuit breaker was well within its design parameters, it had become much more sensitive. There wasn’t a short – just a super sensitive breaker. By adjusting the load and reducing the wattage, the problem circuit breaker didn’t trip any longer. Sometimes the problem can be solved by adjusting the load and at other times the only solution is to replace the circuit breaker.
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